tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post3132279118166400184..comments2023-10-21T03:54:12.029-04:00Comments on A Gift Universe: The Catholic way to be gay?Sheilahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-35219076350298550832019-05-23T11:56:06.702-04:002019-05-23T11:56:06.702-04:00If there's no other gay ministry besides this ...If there's no other gay ministry besides this rather unreliable one, I'd recommend somebody starts another one. Though there are plenty of orthodox Catholic writers out there, like Eve Tushnet, Steve Gershom, and the bloggers at Spiritual Friendship who talk about homosexuality without the negatives of Courage.Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-76472093446583012972018-12-26T07:34:42.928-05:002018-12-26T07:34:42.928-05:00P.S. Sorry if my comment above sounded harsh - not...P.S. Sorry if my comment above sounded harsh - not intended to be, but reading back I see it may come across 'preachy', just like the Christians critical of all things gay you were posting about ;) <br /><br />Trust in God, His goodness, and that He offers an eternity of love where He will sort all these things out :)<br /><br />sbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-7669664241518957262018-12-26T07:13:55.261-05:002018-12-26T07:13:55.261-05:00Just politely - you are waaaay out on a wing here,...Just politely - you are waaaay out on a wing here, and in charity, I fear you are at serious risk of harming your spiritual health (if you are Catholic). <br /><br />You mention <i>"homosexuality and Asperger's, <b>both</b> of which have genetic causes"</i>, yet identical twin studies show no geentic cause for homosexuality, ie DNA and hormones, etc in the womb do not make both twins gay when one is. "It's [homosexuality's] pyschological genesis remains largely unexplained" - CCC 2357.<br /><br />You say Dr Fitzgibbons <i>"is an untrustworthy source when I show you what he said about priest abusers"</i>, but the two issues are unrelated. He may be right about homsexuality, and wrong (or right) about false claims of sexual abuse against priests (which was the limited circumstances of abuse he was quoted on).<br /><br />Could I politely suggest that the things we read influence our own thoughts, and if we tend to read a lot of pro-gay/SSA or gay Catholic writers, that can subtly shape our views away from what the church teaches and towards a more liberal, non-catholic view? It creeps up on us, using our sympathy for gay catholics who are having a hard time with their sexality, and don't need attacks from anti-gay activists. Before we know it, we have rainbow flags draped through church to show our empathy and welcoming nature, and are toning down the church's call to chastity for gays (which to be fair, is hardly taught to straight Christians!), etc.<br /><br />While I like Melinda Selmys' writing, she has wandered over the border a bit on church teaching wrt gay sexuality in the past, which is what prompts my concern. That, and the fact Courage seem one of the few church groups not endorsing active gay sex life for gays in the church (vis Fr James Martin, SJ). Not saying they have it all correct, just that all the gay bashers don't represent Courage. And Fr Harvey was quoting medical professionals (who in hindsight were clearly wrong), similarly to St JP2 and B16 did at the time.<br /><br />God bless...<br />sb <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com