tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post5767532172678113271..comments2023-10-21T03:54:12.029-04:00Comments on A Gift Universe: Help!Sheilahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-11565760535467546122012-07-28T15:15:23.800-04:002012-07-28T15:15:23.800-04:00I know this is too late to help with your son. But...I know this is too late to help with your son. But in case any future litle ones have reflux, here is some information about how it presented "silently" for my son.<br /><br />http://workingonworthy.blogspot.com/2012/07/silent-reflux.htmlMichelleKendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14267234953330861323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-6422162270137000762010-08-13T13:34:10.447-04:002010-08-13T13:34:10.447-04:00Well, I don't know. It might be that the letd...Well, I don't know. It might be that the letdown is slow, but then a whammy when it does happen. However, I think an UNDER-active letdown might be more the problem.<br /><br />However, I've started using the shield again for those occasions when he gets screamy, and it's really been helping. He still seems upset, but I'm able to stick the shield into his mouth. Once he realizes it's there, he calms right down and nurses. I'm still not sure what the problem is, but this is curing the symptom anyway.<br /><br />I also wonder if I've not had as much milk lately (due to all the nursing issues ... it's a self-proliferating problem). So when he does want to nurse, there's not much there, and he gets all fussy. Today I seem to have more than I have all week... and the diaper output is improved too.<br /><br />Right now my theory is that his tummy hurts when he's hungry. Maybe it gets too acidic when he hasn't had anything to eat in awhile. So he gets really grouchy and upset, and it SEEMS like nursing will hurt, even though once he gets latched on, he finds it doesn't? I don't know; I'm kind of grasping at straws here. It may just be that, since he learned to latch on later in life, he forgets how when he's upset (e.g. overtired or very hungry). Today he's been happy as a clam and nursing very frequently with no problems. *shrug*Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-66045949339818245532010-08-13T09:10:55.404-04:002010-08-13T09:10:55.404-04:00You know, I'm dumb. The early spitty baby day...You know, I'm dumb. The early spitty baby days were also overactive letdown days, also at 4 months. I should have mentioned that. I was literally drowning the little guy!<br /><br />That doesn't seem to make as much sense if it takes a long time for letdown to even happen, though. Sounds like a LLL meeting might be the place to go!Fideliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153940948852223051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-69444236450126483482010-08-12T12:39:58.948-04:002010-08-12T12:39:58.948-04:00Huh, that might be so. Sometimes he kind of choke...Huh, that might be so. Sometimes he kind of chokes and splutters (which would explain why the shield helped). However he usually pulls off before the letdown, which often takes a long time to happen ... perhaps in that case he is impatient for it? Pumping would help for that too, though.<br /><br />New update: after a whole lot of screaming, a restless nap, and more refusal to nurse, I used the old plastic shield. Usually it doesn't work, but this time it did. At any rate it's nice to have the option in my toolbox ... I hate the dang thing but it's better than no nursing.Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-78856583725414734002010-08-12T12:14:52.268-04:002010-08-12T12:14:52.268-04:00I forgot to add....herer is some more infor on ove...I forgot to add....herer is some more infor on overactive letdown:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overactive_let-down<br /><br />http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVSepOct95p71.htmlBethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654380900373498499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-79107550879550751462010-08-12T12:06:51.000-04:002010-08-12T12:06:51.000-04:00I exclusively nursed two babies for 6 months, then...I exclusively nursed two babies for 6 months, then continued with one to 17 months and the other to 15 months. The behavior you described happened to me often, especially at the beginning of each nursing relationship.<br /><br />An LC explained it to me this way: especially after not nursing for a while, my milk "letdown" at the time of nursing was so powerful that the voluminous spray of milk all at once was startling to the baby. She coached me to pump a small amount to induce the milk flow, then try to latch. This works in a two-fold way: (a) the let down isn't so forceful and (b) the nipple becomes coated with milk, which helps to entice the feeding.<br /><br />Also, in my experience (and only mine....just sharing FYI), in the case of an otherwise healthy baby, a pediatrician may be quick to suggest introducing formula; doctors love the quick fix, especially when they have free samples to hand out. :::sigh::: <br /><br />Whatever happens, best of luck to you & Marko!Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654380900373498499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-69772450897740625922010-08-11T22:41:10.484-04:002010-08-11T22:41:10.484-04:00Huh, I never heard of reflux coming and going! Th...Huh, I never heard of reflux coming and going! Thanks, Fidelio.<br /><br />I held the bottle in a normal nursing position, so that wasn't it. However, if it were intermittent reflux, it would make sense because he didn't have the association of pain with the bottle.<br /><br />I would see an LC, but I can't afford it. :P I plan to go to an LLL meeting next week though. The frequent nursing is helping, but not entirely ... sometimes he will still be upset no matter when I offer, particularly if he's overtired (like he was today - would not nap for some reason).Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-76423203132153007212010-08-11T17:29:50.177-04:002010-08-11T17:29:50.177-04:00Have you gone to a lactation consultant versus the...Have you gone to a lactation consultant versus the doctor? Or La Leche League? I have a feeling they'd be better prepared to help you than a doctor for an otherwise healthy baby.<br /><br />I've never had a baby, but read a lot about it. I wonder if it has to do with when he's over-hungry? As you said, nursing him more often helps. So perhaps if you kept on a schedule for a while he might stop with the screaming and refusing to nurse?Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037863893536646602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-2409571335022215732010-08-11T16:31:25.383-04:002010-08-11T16:31:25.383-04:00Thrush isn't too common, Sheila, or I'd sa...Thrush isn't too common, Sheila, or I'd say that sounded likely. When you fed him the expressed milk, were you holding him more upright than usual? I wonder if it isn't a combination of reflux and the "behavior" thing. While reflux appears early and usually goes away, V did a reflux/MASSIVE spitting up thing for four weeks, then not again until he was four months, then not again until he was eight months. It comes and goes with him. I wonder if Mark is afraid all the time of the reflux part, even though it might not be a continuous problem? Hmmm...mysterious.Fideliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153940948852223051noreply@blogger.com