tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post2043065567344843917..comments2023-10-21T03:54:12.029-04:00Comments on A Gift Universe: Problems with the infancy narrativesSheilahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-34451957335064240222018-03-08T10:55:48.027-05:002018-03-08T10:55:48.027-05:00Yes there are many problematic differences between...Yes there are many problematic differences between the historical accounts! So many problems arise from ideologies that attempt to treat the gospels as historical and scientific textbooks. I can't even tell you how crazy that drives me. While there is a historical element to the gospels they are not meant to be strict historical narratives. My understanding-and I could be wrong is that the early church was well aware of these descrepancies and left them in on purpose. I was fascinated by this lecture given recently in Canada from an orthodox priest which is an exploration of the phenomena of the variant narratives in the four gospels. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htTOdFpgZNE<br /><br />peace, girl, and sorry to be all commmenty on your blog today! lol! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695397974290032048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-54954907811663900802016-12-31T11:43:41.152-05:002016-12-31T11:43:41.152-05:00That's a... hmm. Why Did I think they had to ...That's a... hmm. Why Did I think they had to be in Jerusalem for ...? Yes, that would be awkward. I must be getting old.<br />Belfry Bathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514867101036143597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-52388772091737614292016-12-31T09:54:08.287-05:002016-12-31T09:54:08.287-05:00From Luke's text, I get that they did *not* go...From Luke's text, I get that they did *not* go up to Jerusalem on the eighth day, but they did on the fortieth day. Which makes sense to me; no power on earth could convince me to sit on a donkey all day eight days after giving birth. ;)Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853868724554947854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2464977109229359349.post-13317118371701325762016-12-29T13:14:55.406-05:002016-12-29T13:14:55.406-05:00Oh, it gets weirder if you try to have Luke and Ma...Oh, it gets weirder if you try to have Luke and Matthew's stories running at the same time: Jesus and Mary and Joseph go up to Jerusalem on the eighth day, which means either they did this in very great secrecy <i>or</i> the Magi don't arrive 'till <i>much</i> later and so forth... (I'm not clear on whether they also had/chose to be in Jerusalem for now-Candlemas, the 40th day... not discounting it, but...)<br /><br />Luke the Greek Physician is supposed to have spoken with Mary personally (whenever we read that Mary "kept" and "pondered", ... if it is meant <i>plainly</i>, it must be that She later <i>said so, to someone</i>); Matthew the Hebrew repentent tax-collector (i.e. former Roman Collaborator) ... he writes, in the manner of the Old Testament, in figures, of what it means for God to be born Man, and of how Juda and Levi, longest to keep the Covenant, <i>missed</i> God's advent, or were afraid of it and tried not to see; this not to say that he "made it all up", but that he's not writing a history lesson, and getting all the facts in order really isn't the important thing for him.<br /><br />But, re. the Holy Innocents: would it be noticed? would it spark a rebellion? These would depend on the actual scale of the slaughter. How many male children less than about a year old would there have been in this small city? It might have been only five; which is not morally any better than a thousand, but still: not necessarily News.<br />Belfry Bathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514867101036143597noreply@blogger.com